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Using Play to Think and Lead Creatively, with Col. Jason 'Toga' Trew

August 1, 2023 ยท 38 min

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Col. Jason 'Toga' Trew on how playfulness fuels creative leadership, why strategy is continuing advantage, and how design thinking reshapes education.


Toga makes the case that creative leadership needs both figures from the old myth, the careful builder Daedalus and the playful Icarus, and that most organizations only reward one of them. He explains the difference between play as an activity and playfulness as an attitude you can carry into serious work, including a small habit he uses in traffic to turn a frustrating moment into a better story and a better outcome. He also shares why he sometimes avoids the word play altogether, and how being empathetic with an audience means showing rather than telling.


Greg and Toga also talk about the one year teaching assignment at Air University that turned into a decade in Air Force professional military education, the difference between directive coaching and walking alongside someone, his wife Jennifer's encouragement at a pivotal moment, his mission to innovate education so we get better at educating innovators, and why his leadership philosophy comes down to love. Greg and Toga met at a creative leadership summit hosted by Dr. Steve Ralph of the Epic Society.


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