Leading With Curiosity Instead of Fear | Bart Caylor & Danielle Harward

Why do smart leaders stop asking questions? Usually it is fear of looking like they should already know the answer. @BartCaylorIndy who helps colleges and universities recruit students and donors, explains why curiosity in leadership matters more than looking good, whether the subject is a marketing budget, AI, or being a better parent.

In this conversation: - How a small school spent a million dollars a year on ads nobody understood, and what one honest question uncovered - Why Bart fired every client outside higher education to get clear on his focus, and how it grew his business - What a servant's towel handed out with every diploma teaches about quiet, selfless leadership - Why trust is earned through serving first, and how asking your kids how to be a better parent builds it

Thanks to Interworks for sponsoring this episode.

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Chapters: 0:00 Intro and InteraWorks Sponsor 1:15 Meet Bart Caylor and His Work in Higher Education 4:01 How College Changed Bart’s Life 6:19 Why Bart Wrote Chasing Mission Fit 7:35 Why Clear Messaging Attracts the Right People 12:21 Finding Purpose and Mission in Higher Education 13:50 What Servant Leadership Really Means 17:12 Building a Legacy Through Trust and Service 19:14 The $3 Million Marketing Mistake 21:50 Why Great Leaders Stay Curious 24:12 How Bart Became an AI Early Adopter 25:54 Using AI as a Tool, Not a Threat 28:39 How AI Can Make You Better at What You Do 29:56 Greg’s Takeaways: Courage, Curiosity, and Service 30:43 InteraWorks Best Year Yet and Closing Thoughts